Electronic Telegram No. 173 Central Bureau for Astronomical Telegrams INTERNATIONAL ASTRONOMICAL UNION M.S. 18, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA 02138, U.S.A. IAUSUBS@CFA.HARVARD.EDU or FAX 617-495-7231 (subscriptions) CBAT@CFA.HARVARD.EDU (science) URL http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/cbat.html SUPERNOVAE 2005cn AND 2005cr M. Modjaz, R. Kirshner, and P. Challis, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, report that a spectrum (range 450-740 nm) of SN 2005cn (cf. IAUC 8549), obtained on June 28.21 UT by M. Calkins and R. Hutchins with the F. L. Whipple Observatory 1.5-m telescope (+ FAST), shows it to be a type-Ia supernova, with a spectral-feature age (Riess et al. 1997, A.J. 114, 722) of about 3 (+/- 2) days after maximum light; the supernova expansion velocity, derived from the minimum of Si II (rest 635.5 nm), and adopting the NED recession velocity of 2065 km/s for the host galaxy (from da Costa et al. 1998, A.J. 116, 1) is about 10000 km/s. A spectrogram of SN 2005cr (cf. IAUC 8552), obtained on June 28.19 UT, shows it to be a type-Ia supernova, a few days before maximum light; the supernova expansion velocity, derived from the minimum of Si II (rest 635.5 nm), and adopting the NED recession velocity of 6437 km/s for the host galaxy (from Drinkwater et al. 1996, MNRAS 279, 595) is about 11000 km/s. NOTE: These 'Central Bureau Electronic Telegrams' are sometimes superseded by text appearing later in the formal IAU Circulars. (C) Copyright 2005 CBAT 2005 June 28 (CBET 173) Daniel W. E. Green